Thursday, September 29, 2005

Google ripped Gmail from Chinese site?

Gmail seems to be copied from (belongs to ISM) is not online currently.
Check out its home page at web archive here:
Seems familiar with Google's Gmail? Read on... 
Gmail's long-lost Chinese cousin?
 ISM claims its Gmail service preceded Google's

By Sumner Lemon, IDG News Service
September 26, 2005

The multicolored letters look familiar. It's Gmail, but there's something different here.


you use Google's (Profile, Products, Articles) Gmail free Internet e-mail service, you can be forgiven for doing a double take when you visit the ISM Gmail Web site at After all, the two Web sites share more than a passing resemblance to each other.


ISM Gmail is a free Web-based e-mail service offered by Beijing ISM Internet Technology Development Co., a small Chinese e-mail provider and domain registrar based in western Beijing.


Like Google's own free Web e-mail service, the ISM Gmail service employs a logo comprised of blue, yellow, red, and green letters. And the sign-in pages of the two sites display a shared fondness for minimalist design; although Google prefers blue bars along the top and bottom of the page, while the bars on ISM's site are green.


At first glance, it's easy to assume that the Chinese site is just a knock-off of the better-known Google e-mail service. There's just one problem: ISM claims that its Gmail service was here first. And there's evidence to back up that claim.


For example, ISM registered the domain name on Aug. 1, 2003, according to whois information provided by the China Internet Network Information Center (CNNIC), which oversees the .cn top-level domain. That registration date predates Google's April 1, 2004, announcement of its Gmail service by eight months.


Moreover, an ISM manager who identified herself using only her surname, Wang, claimed the company developed the multicolored ISM Gmail logo in 2003, long before Google unveiled its own colorful Gmail logo. "We didn't know their logo would look like ours," she said in a telephone interview.

That claim could not immediately be verified.


According to Wang, Google approached ISM about its use of the domain and the Gmail name in August 2004, shortly after Google launched its own Gmail service in the U.S. Those talks didn't go anywhere, and the two companies are no longer in contact, she said.

For its part. Google would only say that it's looking into the matter. "We are aware of this and are investigating," wrote Debbie Frost, a company spokeswoman, in an e-mail.


Any resemblance between the two Gmails is purely skin-deep. Once you get under the hood, things look quite different. For example, the user interface employed with ISM Gmail is nothing like that used by Google's Gmail: there are no conversation threads, no labels and no search function. There's less space too. Instead of the more than 1GB of storage space that Google makes available to its Gmail users, ISM offers each user 300KB of storage.


ISM doesn't offer ads tailored to the content of e-mail. Instead, the only advertisements on the ISM Gmail site are a banner ad for ISM's own domain-name registration service and a rectangular ad that says, "In association with (Profile, Products, Articles)." But that's just for show.

"We don't have a relationship them. It's just a link," Wang said.


Today, ISM Gmail -- which stands for Global Mail -- has more than 300,000 users, Wang said. But getting the service up and running wasn't cheap, she said, claiming that ISM spent 20 million renminbi ($2.5 million) developing the technology for the service.


The ISM Gmail service is meant to be multilingual and currently supports two languages: English and the simplified version of Chinese. In the future, ISM plans to expand the number of supported languages to more than 50, including traditional Chinese, Japanese, and Korean, Wang said.

For now, when users sends an e-mail, they can choose between using an English e-mail address ( or an e-mail address that uses a username and domain name written in Chinese characters.


In a country like China, where most people can't read or understand the alphabet, having e-mail addresses and URLs (uniform resource locators) written in the local language has long been viewed by some observers as a crucial step toward making Internet access widely accessible.


While that may be true, offering a bilingual e-mail service hasn't helped ISM turn a profit with Gmail. The company had originally planned to charge users for its e-mail service but that wasn't possible after Google began offering its own service for free, Wang said. Once that happened, users felt that ISM should also offer its Gmail service for, she said.



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Visualizing Web 2.0

Dion Hinchcliffe's Web 2.0 Blog wrote:

I try to describe Web 2.0 as a term given to a natural emergence of related events, rather than some artificially imposed vision. I think that's a very true and crucially important aspect of Web 2.0.

It's now so clear that people are suddenly shifting their attention en masse to the Web for their computing needs. That is, instead of installing and maintaining a bunch of rapidly aging and non-integrated bits onto their personal computers.

People are finding that Web 2.0 places like Flickr, or Voo2do, and especially are terribly useful because they're always available, whenever they need it, anywhere they go, with their information.

And then there's the added value factor of putting your information into a highly social place. It becomes much, much more useful. People can leverage it, add value to it with comments, tagging, aggregation, bookmarking it, and so on. Your information, if you want, becomes part of the scene.

And with Web 2.0 apps, you still maintain control of your data. You haven't lost it at all, you've really just put it in context.

Yes, so Web 2.0 is such an engaging, lively, and useful place when compared to computing alone.

However, I still struggle to explain the Web 2.0 to my fellow technologists. It's hard to understand all the Web 2.0 forces and the way that they actually seem to fit together so nicely.

Web 2.0 is so much more than Google supplanting Microsoft with services that replace traditional software and just exchanging one market leader for another.

So I'm working on yet another visualization of Web 2.0. It's not the O'Reilly meme-map, it is a more traditional, concrete diagram of Web 2.0 that shows the people facing side and the content and services. And what's inside them.

It's not complete, or necessarily 100% correct. But it's a start. Please comment or change it, I'd like to get this right. And help more people understand Web 2.0.
I'm submitting this post to Technosight's Blogoposum 1 on Communicating Web 2.0, please participate if you can.

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posted Tuesday, 27 September 2005



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Wednesday, September 28, 2005

Yahoo provides free POP access to Indian users


Yahoo corp has introduced free POP access for Indian users(ie, members
with the id "username@yahoo._co.in_").

To enable POP access , follow these steps:

1.Login into your Yahoo mail account
2.Select "*_Options_*" from the top links
3.Then, select " _*POP Access and Forwarding*_ "
4.Then select "Web & POP Access" and complete the registration
5.Save the settings.

Then, you need a POP client like Thunderbird or Outlook Express to be
able to download your emails.

The mail settings are as follows:

Server Settings
Incoming Mail Server (POP3):
Outgoing Mail Server (SMTP):
using SMTP port 587

Account Name/Username: Yahoo id
Email address: yahoo email address
Password: Your Yahoo! Mail password


Note: Currently ONLY members can have this facility
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Monday, September 05, 2005

Top 50 Internet Hackers

 Special defacements Top Attackers 
No Attacker Total
% of politically
motivated attacks
1. Fatal Error 832 12 1.44%
2. chinahacker 795 217 27.30%
3. Red Eye 582 85 14.60%
4. OutLaw 564 4 0.71%
5. D.O.M 494 0 0.00%
6. Unknown Core 480 11 2.29%
7. iskorpitx 419 1 0.24%
8. Ashiyane Digital Security Team 362 18 4.97%
9. SegmentationFault 342 0 0.00%
10. XTech Inc 298 0 0.00%
11. core-project 277 35 12.64%
12. simiens 272 0 0.00%
13. r00t_System 271 0 0.00%
14. Poizonb0x 254 0 0.00%
15. Batamhacker 254 0 0.00%
16. S4t4n1c_S0uls 249 90 36.14%
17. dark-underground 243 240 98.77%
18. Ir4dex 232 37 15.95%
19. batistuta 231 0 0.00%
20. NobodyCoder 230 223 96.96%
21. Hi-Tech Hate 228 39 17.11%
22. 209 162 77.51%
23. Prime Suspectz 203 0 0.00%
24. ASC 196 1 0.51%
25. Silver Lords 195 2 1.03%
26. TechTeam 188 48 25.53%
27. h4ck3rsbr 185 0 0.00%
28. powHACK 172 37 21.51%
29. PcDelisi 165 0 0.00%
30. Kernel_Attack 164 94 57.32%
31. ION 162 3 1.85%
33. Infektion Group 160 38 23.75%
34. DkD[|| 160 124 77.50%
35. F4keLive 156 0 0.00%
36. PRI[ll 156 0 0.00%
37. int3rc3pt0r 156 40 25.64%
38. Command Tribulation 155 141 90.97%
39. Team-evil 150 0 0.00%
40. Q8Crackers 149 1 0.67%
41. Innocent Boys 141 5 3.55%
42. TIG 136 0 0.00%
43. aikmel 126 114 90.48%
44. Zuso.Org 123 0 0.00%
45. Mirror 122 12 9.84%
46. Sidewinder 122 0 0.00%
47. Moroccan GanGsters 121 76 62.81%
48. DaemonOptik 120 1 0.83%
49. Sala 14 116 97 83.62%
50. TriboHacking 116 115 99.14%


Dated: 11:26 PM 9/5/2005


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